High Voltage Isolation

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High Voltage Isolation

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We are trying to measure a 2V signal across a current resistor at -17kV from ground.
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There is no way we can put the resistor on the ground side.

We can measure this signal with a multimeter, taking care to keep it isolated. But can anyone thing of a trick to log data from it for a long period of time? The must be some trick, perhaps with a current mirror and an opto-isolator, to get the voltage down to low voltage levels.

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Working on high with home made circuitry is very dangerous.

It is better to use a special crafted instrument for this

https://nl.rs-online.com/web/p/multimet ... s/4428294/

You can attach this to the picoscope and measure over long periods of time.

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bennog wrote:Working on high with home made circuitry is very dangerous.

It is better to use a special crafted instrument for this

https://nl.rs-online.com/web/p/multimet ... s/4428294/

You can attach this to the picoscope and measure over long periods of time.
Thanks for replying.

I already have that high voltage probe.
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I need to monitor 8 channels. I'd like something like the PicoLog 1000 that I could power by battery and read wirelessly in a PC or phone app.

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The PicoLog 1000, as with all our devices, will require a permanent connection to a PC to provide power and also collect the data.
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Re: High Voltage Isolation

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It depends on what measurement rate/bandwidth you need. The low voltage floating at high potential is going to be a challenge for any non-galvanically-isolated differential amplifier or mirror circuit.

There are some multimeters that have long-term data-logging capability that you may be able to float if this can be done safely. If you need high bandwidth (and are not budget limited), a couple of the big scope manufacturers are now offering fiber-optic fully-isolated probes that are designed to be floated at both high potentials and at high frequencies. There are a few analog-signal-over-fiber-optic links out there that do something similar at lower cost (but still somewhat expensive).

You could use a USB-over-fiber data link and float the entire PicoScope and a battery (or use some other HV-isolated power supply), but this would have the potential hazard of the entire scope and associated cabling floating at high potentials. Fiber-optic cable often does not have any metallic content and should provide reasonable high-voltage isolation. Outside of electrical hazard, the other possible issue is that having a physically-large object connected to a high-voltage circuit may impact circuit operation if high impedances and/or low currents are involved (especially if the scope is floating at a non-DC voltage).

If you were considering building a circuit to measure the voltage and send the measurement to a ground-referenced scope or data logger, I would recommend a circuit that modulates the signal into a digital signal (such as a delta-sigma modulator), transmits the digital signal optically, and then demodulates the signal to send to the scope or logger. This may offer better long-term precision than transmitting the analog signal.

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